I really hate Tom Leykos

topic posted Mon, February 28, 2005 - 8:30 AM by  Talena
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Seriously I do. But I used to love him, straight up til a scrambled egg mcmuffin joke. Now I'll make my fiancees like miserable the entire time Tom stays on til he changes it. I'd rather listen to rap. And that's saying something.

Anyway the other day in the car, I had been particularly grumpy all day so I decided to leave it alone and give him some peace why he listened to the guy I hate. And some caller to the show brought up how his friend couldn't get a vasectomy without his wifes permission. Then of course he and Tom went off about how unfair and horrible it was. The vagina being in control and all.

Then I got pissed yelled my own anger that they were forgetting to mention that a WOMAN after a pregnancy prevention tube tying as a rule gets told no unless she has TWO KIDS and HER HUSBANDS permission. And my fiancee changed the station. He hates when I go on tangents over anything, how did such a laid back guy end up with a volcano anyway?

I know this, because when I was 18 I tried to get one. :D
I never wanted kids. My son was a surprise, I love him til I can't love anymore, but it never would have been a deliberate choice to conceive for me. And I really am not the personality type to be 80 and mooning over the kids I didn't have.

So, who here thinks this is a MEN'S issue? Being denied a vasectomy without his wifes permission? I think this is definitaly an issue for both sexes, because this particular unfairness goes both ways.

Oh yeah, my dad got a vasectomy without my mothers permission. And let me tell ya, filling me in on the details when I was 7 wasn't a good idea, I told ALL his friends he was "neutered" everytime babies were mentioned. So there's a hint for all you men with children who may be tempted to answer the "will I get anymore little brothers or sisters" question. :D Lie.
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    Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

    Mon, February 28, 2005 - 10:59 AM
    I just have one question, who is Tom Leykos?
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      Mon, February 28, 2005 - 11:22 AM
      His site: www.blowmeuptom.com

      Tom Leykis is a radio show host in Los Angeles who is syndicated in many markets around the country. His show is the "shock jock" variety. He's like Howard Stern in very few respects, however.

      His show focuses around the theme of "Leykis 101: Where we teach men how to get laid more for less money, and more importantly, where we teach women how men think." Leykis 101 happens once a week, and the topics on the show the rest of the week tend to be about similar topics. For example, he might read about a guy who got nailed with child support for a kid that isn't his from a woman he never met. Or he might take calls from women about "how many of your boyfriends have you cheated on?" His show always has something to do with men/women and the battle between the two.

      His general game plan seems to be to get women on the phone who are examples of the "shrew, shrill, bitch," or men how are the "wussy," and to ridicule them publicly. He alternates this with callers who are examples of his philosophy working, and congratulates them.

      His main thrust is about getting single guys more pussy for less cash, and making sure that single guys who DON'T want a relationship don't get suckered by women. He says nothing and does nothing for anyone who wants a relationship....

      And a small percentage of shows have a political thrust having to do with men getting screwed in courts and whatnot.
  • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

    Mon, February 28, 2005 - 11:48 AM
    "Now I'll make my fiancees like miserable the entire time Tom stays on til he changes it."

    "He hates when I go on tangents over anything, how did such a laid back guy end up with a volcano anyway?"

    Are you sure your strategy here is wise? I know it would drive me insane, personally speaking. Any time my girlfriend decides to knowingly and voluntarily make my life miserable...well...it just drives a wedge between us. I simply won't put up with such behavior. If a woman plays that kind of game with me repeatedly, the relationship is over. I'd never do this to my girlfriend, and I expect to be treated at least as well as I treat her....

    When I come up to "problems" in my relationships, I have the following philosophy, which works pretty well for me:

    1) NEVER argue about a problem if at all possible to avoid it. Even if my partner argues, do my best NOT to argue back.

    2) Ask myself, "is this problem really a big deal to me? Is this something that I just can't live/deal with?" Answer this question to myself honestly.

    3) If the answer to that question is "no," then I simply say "no problem dear, I'm happy to do what you say," and fulfill the request/demand. Then it is important that I actually fulfill the request to the best of my ability. Not do it half-assed or begrudgingly. Just do it well. Doing it less than well just proves that I didn't really mean I was happy to do it.

    4) If the answer to that question is "yes," then I simply say "look dear, I love you and respect you, but what you're asking of me is never going to happen. I refuse to argue about this, and I refuse to budge on it. You're welcome to talk all you want to try to convince me, if that's what you really want to do, but I can tell you right now that I'm not going to change my mind about it, and I'm requesting that you drop this right now." Then it is important that I live my word: don't argue, listen, and don't ever give in. If I do give in, it sends a clear message that arguing works. If I never give in, it sends a clear message that my word is bond.

    Okay, so obviously this is my little technique, and it works well for me, but that doesn't mean it will work well for everyone. I've given this to many couples I know, and all of them appreciated it. Give it a shot. Arguments suck. Being angry sucks. I find it much better to be clear and understood than in an angry argument.

    "I'd rather listen to rap."

    Me too, but then I actually LIKE rap. ;-)

    "So, who here thinks this is a MEN'S issue? Being denied a vasectomy without his wifes permission? I think this is definitaly an issue for both sexes, because this particular unfairness goes both ways."

    Yep, like you say, it goes both ways. But here's the lesson Tom should have given: Get another doctor.

    There's a doctor out there who will do the operation you want. He might not be local or on your medical plan, but there's a doctor out there who will do what you ask. They have a CYA (cover your ass) policy on such matters for malpractice reasons. My guess is that too many doctors have been slapped with lawsuits by people who got "snipped" at age 20 or whose partners got "snipped" early in life. But some doctor out there WILL take your money and do what you want.

    But yes, it sucks that doctors routinely say "no" to this particular request. There's more than enough babies in the world. Anything that cuts that population down can't be a bad thing. Snip the hell outta anyone who want it...that's what I say!

    I wouldn't label this a "men's" or a "women's" issue at all. I'd label it a medical issue. It's just one more example of doctors refusing the care their patients request.
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      Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

      Mon, February 28, 2005 - 1:07 PM
      I guess I'm lucky that my girlfriend never demands anything of me.
      • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

        Mon, February 28, 2005 - 2:53 PM
        Indeed. That's what I would love to find, and suspect all men are really looking for.... Unconditional love and acceptance would be nice, that's for sure, but it's damned rare to find it.....
        • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

          Tue, March 1, 2005 - 1:54 PM
          Hey I'm not a MONSTER! By making his life miserable, I mean poking him, tickling him, verbalizing hmmmmmm maybe next we'll listen to Dr. Laura (who we both hate). But it's a JOKE. If he REALLY wanted to listen to it and make me suffer, he would, trust me. He's laid back, but he's not a carpet.

          My issue with Tom L (my fiancee's name is Tom to, so I'm goingto add the L for Leykos) is that I went from laughing, to disgusted with him in the space of one very very bad joke. But TOM, my honey, doesn't agree it was that bad, actually he doesn't believe that Tom L's joke about egg mcmuffins was abortion related, despite the fact he was joking with a guy who just got his girlfriend to get an abortion. There are some things that aren't funny, and abortion is one of them. So I REALLY don't want to hear him, Tom knows this, he normally changes it on his own, but sometimes he leaves it on for the sole purpose of getting my reaction.

          (My reaction to Tom L's bad point was real and tangent like, but it wasn't designed to make Tom's life poor, or even get him to change the station, it was just my thoughts/feelings regarding what I was hearing)

          I swear to all that is holy, I would never deliberately make his life a living hell, I wuv him. And there is no man in the world good enough to replace him if I lost him by treating him poorly.
          I almost died laughing when I saw how my post got taken though. I'm going to show him. :D Maybe he'll be less grumpy about me hanging out in forums that are mostly inhabited by men. LOL
          • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

            Tue, March 1, 2005 - 5:10 PM
            > "maybe next we'll listen to Dr. Laura "

            DON'T get me started on THAT creature! LOL

            > "I swear to all that is holy, I would never deliberately make his life a living hell, I wuv him."

            Glad to hear that! And lucky him!

            > "I almost died laughing when I saw how my post got taken though. I'm going to show him."

            LOL

            > "Maybe he'll be less grumpy about me hanging out in forums that are mostly inhabited by men."

            I somehow doubt that part! He'll probably still be jealous of your computer time.... ;-)
  • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

    Tue, March 1, 2005 - 3:45 PM
    <<And some caller to the show brought up how his friend couldn't get a vasectomy without his wifes permission.>>

    I call shenanigans on that. (Or in other words, bullshit.)

    <<Then I got pissed yelled my own anger that they were forgetting to mention that a WOMAN after a pregnancy prevention tube tying as a rule gets told no unless she has TWO KIDS and HER HUSBANDS permission.>>

    <<I know this, because when I was 18 I tried to get one. :D>>

    Were you prohibited or just discouraged?
    • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

      Tue, March 1, 2005 - 5:06 PM
      > "I call shenanigans on that. (Or in other words, bullshit.) "

      Well, you'd be wrong on that. Many doctors will not perform this operation without permission from the spouse, and the same goes for tying the fallopian tubes. It is not that uncommon to run into this issue. I've read about it many times before, had it happen to a friend, and heard about it on radio shows. I find it unlikely that all those different and varied sources all came up with the same stories.

      If it were that common of a fake story, it would be on the "urban legends" sites, and it isn't.
    • Re: I really hate Tom Leykos

      Wed, March 2, 2005 - 10:48 AM

      According to the American Academy of Family Physicians, there is no requirement of spousal permission for tubal ligation:

      familydoctor.org/792.xml#8

      I'd say it is only ethical for a doctor to discuss the consequences of any surgery or decision with a patient.

      And according to Planned Parenthood:

      "Mentally competent adults can legally choose sterilization in all 50 states."

      It is up to an individual doctor as to whether he or she will perform these procedures and under what circumstances.
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      Wed, March 2, 2005 - 11:14 AM
      He told me 2 kids and husbands permission were required or medical neccessity. No ifs ands or buts.

      Now at 18 I was really really shy and very bad at sticking up for myself, the same doctor with the same words and same tone aimed at me now would pay dearly. Thinking about it now, I lay odds he might have been lying flat out. I had other problems with him later on down the road that sent me to E.R. I hate to stereotype, but he was rather old fashioned (and old himself) and was always disrespectful towards me and my mother, but my dad was a "man" and therefor worthy of conversation with him.

      Now I wonder why I never tried with another doctor when I got a little older and wiser.

      Not that I would ever ever ever give up my little hubba bubba! But you'd think I would have tried again later considering straight up til I got pregnant I was determined to never have children.