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So this is the situation of a friend of my family.
Dads fake name: Rick Mom's fake name: Bitch
2 years and 7 months ago Bitch dumps her daughters at a complete strangers house, who happened to live across the street from the father Rick.
Bitch is a drug addict who's boyfriend was killed during an attempt on HER life for unpaid drug debt.
Rick got temporary custody of his daughters after she left them on grounds of abandonment. But he had to keep renewing it every 4 weeks.
Now bitch wants her daughters back, she claims she's clean but more likely she just wants the child support that comes with them so she can buy drugs with it.
Bitch got a restraining order on Rick so he couldn't be near his daughters WHILE HE HAD CUSTODY OF THEM. Now as of today the judge said he has to give them back as of today to their mother. Who hasn't shown up for them. They are at a friends so he doesn't get in trouble for violating the restraining order. He can't get ahold of her to return them because of the restraining order, and doesn't know where she is. But he's violating court order by not returning them.
So basically the girls don't want to go back. They say they will run away. CPS won't get involved because they say that they can't just go against a court order.
So what can he do? Any advice on organizations that could help him with his case? He's very low income and would need someone to work with him. The situation is desperate so any advice is REALLY appreciated.
Dads fake name: Rick Mom's fake name: Bitch
2 years and 7 months ago Bitch dumps her daughters at a complete strangers house, who happened to live across the street from the father Rick.
Bitch is a drug addict who's boyfriend was killed during an attempt on HER life for unpaid drug debt.
Rick got temporary custody of his daughters after she left them on grounds of abandonment. But he had to keep renewing it every 4 weeks.
Now bitch wants her daughters back, she claims she's clean but more likely she just wants the child support that comes with them so she can buy drugs with it.
Bitch got a restraining order on Rick so he couldn't be near his daughters WHILE HE HAD CUSTODY OF THEM. Now as of today the judge said he has to give them back as of today to their mother. Who hasn't shown up for them. They are at a friends so he doesn't get in trouble for violating the restraining order. He can't get ahold of her to return them because of the restraining order, and doesn't know where she is. But he's violating court order by not returning them.
So basically the girls don't want to go back. They say they will run away. CPS won't get involved because they say that they can't just go against a court order.
So what can he do? Any advice on organizations that could help him with his case? He's very low income and would need someone to work with him. The situation is desperate so any advice is REALLY appreciated.
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Re: Advice for me please?
Sun, June 26, 2005 - 10:02 AMThis is so unheartening you know. -
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Re: Advice for me please?
Fri, June 2, 2006 - 9:29 AMOkay now I have a bit of a problem, my ex-boyfriend who is my best friend. 7 yrs ago he was dating another girl and she ended up getting pregnant w/his kid. Now when she was pregnant she filed an Order of protection against him, protecting her and the kid. Now might i add he never once seen his son. His name is on the Birth Certificate but he never signed it cause at that time he was given the Restraining Order/ Order of Protection protecting her and the son. Now she lied to get him to never be able to see his son because they had a bad break-up sorta speak. Now she wants him to see his son because the son was asking her about his father and his whereabouts. Now how can he get the restraining order to be removed so that he can see his son without having the mental state of knowing that he can be arressted if he goes near her or his son. Please help! Cause he wants to see his son and he just seen his son a few weeks ago for the first time in 7yrs. -
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Re: Advice for me please?
Fri, June 2, 2006 - 1:05 PMI have no idea how he can have the restraining order lifted.
But I'd give your friend one piece of advice: have a paternity test as soon as he sees his son.
If the mother is dirty enough to lie about the man, she's also dirty enough to lie about the paternity of the child. Have the test. See if he really is the father...BEFORE he becomes deeply involved in the life of a 7 year old.
And for any guys out there in any situation where a woman wants "your" baby but not you...demand a paternity test AT THE TIME OF BIRTH. Studies have shown that up to 30% of "fathers" are not really the genetic father of their assumed children. Be wise. Have a test. -
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Re: Advice for me please?
Mon, August 7, 2006 - 8:33 AMhahahahaaa!!!!
I remember getting a phone message from the cell ex's phone bouncing around in her purse while she was at a paternity lawyers seeking counsel a little while after we had broken up.....
and (some) women accuse men of being scum.
(I shoot blanks.)
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Re: Advice for me please?
Sun, June 26, 2005 - 12:32 PMwww.gocrc.com/
www.ncfm.org/
Here are a couple of links for your friend. He should hire a good father's rights attorney if possible. He'll need one to win custody of his kids and get the restraining order removed.
He should probably get a restraining order against her as well, and as soon as possible. Actually, he should have done that the day she abandoned the kids.
Some father's rights attorneys will work with him on money and others will not. Many of the attorneys involved in the struggle for father's rights view their job as a kind of mission, and are willing to take on low income clients to try to turn the tide in the family courts back to a more balanced situation.
Good luck to your friend. He'll need it. The deck may be stacked against him, but that doesn't mean it's hopeless. He can win. He just needs someone very familiar with the family courts and father's rights on his side.
My friend just ended a long battle with his ex. She falsely accused him of child abuse, got a restraining order, and refused access to his son. After about 10 months tied up in the courts, they finally found him innocent of all her charges and returned access to his son, though she still has not provided that access. So now he's filing charges against her. Quite the tangled mess, and it's cost him dearly, in money and time, but most importantly in loss of contact with his son. -
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Sun, June 26, 2005 - 2:33 PMThis shit make me so upset. Another example:
I have a friend whose mother (insane woman, btw) won sole custody of the 7 kids after throwing her husband out after he threw a glass figurine at her (lord knows what she was doing, but I'm sure she deserved it). She doesn't work and the poor man wors 3 jobs, working himself to death to support all those kids, and presumably his ex-wife. The kids are allowed to choose which parent to live with at 16, so one by one they move into his tiny house on their 16th birthday. CPS ought to've protected them from their terrible, crazy, crazy, crazy mother, but no, because after what must have been many miserable years the poor man finally lost it and threw something at the monster he married. Really you wouldn't believe the sorts of heinous things she does.
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Re: Advice for me please?
Mon, June 27, 2005 - 12:25 PM<<Bitch got a restraining order on Rick so he couldn't be near his daughters...>>
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Mon, June 27, 2005 - 1:04 PMFrom my understaning, restraining orders don't require any evidence at all to get. I've read about women being granted a restraining order based on testimony that the man proved to be a lie in the court. She had accused the man of "stalking" her and gave three specific dates that she "saw him driving by or parked in front of my house." He was able to provide receipts for hotels, car rentals, restaurants, and witness testimony from about a dozen people saying that he was in other cities on each of the dates in question. The judge STILL granted her request for a restraining order, STILL took his visitation away for 90 days, and didn't sanction her for lying or anything.
Basically, if you're a woman seeking a restraining order against a man in most districts, all the "evidence" you need to get a restraining order is to go before a willing judge and say, "I'm afraid." -
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...go before a willing judge and say, "I'm afraid."...
Mon, August 7, 2006 - 8:35 AMExactly!
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Re: Advice for me please?
Tue, June 28, 2005 - 9:09 AMShe lied, and she did it in another county than his filings. And he couldn't make it to dispute her, circumstances he couldn't help. And he felt relatively safe not making it since he had shown up every time before this she had tried it and SHE had NEVER shown up to the court date EVER. Until the ONE time he couldn't make it.
As of yesterday, monday, the judge in that other county threw out everything. He has his daughters back for the time being (who never made it to their mothers cause no-one could find her and she never showed up for them). And now he is doing the 4 week gerbil wheel again to keep them.
What is it with this effin judge who won't just give him permanent custody? He's been renewing his "temporary" 4-week custody for 2 years and the judge absolutely will not give him more.
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Re: Advice for me please?
Wed, October 4, 2006 - 11:54 AMI think you can request another judge. Talk to a lawyer about the idea because I'm not entirely sure about the validity of my memory and they're more familiar with the law and all the loopholes it has. I'm pretty sure that all he has to do is establish a bias of the current judge (against him or fathers) and he's on his way to a new one.
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